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The TwinProject

Marc and Lucas Leisner love building startups and nerd out on everything AI and business. When you go to a restaurant and immediately start counting the tables to see how much money they might make, you came to the right place.

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Most AI Is Hype. Here's What Actually Makes Money | Eric Bidinger

After 17 years in private equity, Eric Bidinger became a founder — and learned that building companies is very different from analyzing them.

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Marc Leisner

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One half of the twins behind The Twin Project. Marc builds startups and digs into how AI is reshaping the way companies are built, sold and run.

Lucas Leisner

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The other half of the twins. Lucas is the one counting the tables in the restaurant, always working out the business model behind whatever is in front of him.