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Melker Pasternak Ivarsson

Founder, Ordana

A founder thinking one step ahead of the AI wave. With Ordana, Melker is betting on startup collaborations as software markets fragment — and he has a sharp framework for what survives when anyone can build an app: network effects, proprietary data, and licenses or IP. He draws on Haier's zero-distance model, Valve and Spotify to argue the traditional hierarchy is badly structured for the AI era.

Episode with Melker Pasternak Ivarsson